Page 1 of 4

"New" Wrangler in the stable

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:03 pm
by ArticRubi
1988 YJ 4.2/BA-10, 98,000 original miles, excellent mechanical condition, almost no rust!

Image

Plans are to do a 2.5" spring lift with new shackles and some 33's. Once the JK is rolling again I'll be swapping in a T18/D300, building either a set of 44's or an HP30/8.25 or 8.8, depending on what's cheap. Probably going to build a sport cage too. Of course, there will be a fresh coat of white paint in its future :lol:

Re:

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:26 pm
by Hoodoo Man
ArticYJ? ;)

Re:

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:30 pm
by ArticRubi
Yessir! Good news is I've found an HP30/8.25 up in Freeport from a '95 XJ on the cheap I can probably swap in in a day, 4.10 open/open. I'm figuring 3 days of work and I can have the axles swapped and the heep lifted and ready for the trail!

Re:

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:58 pm
by ChrisD

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:11 pm
by DOUG
ArticRubi wrote:Yessir! Good news is I've found an HP30/8.25 up in Freeport from a '95 XJ on the cheap I can probably swap in in a day, 4.10 open/open. I'm figuring 3 days of work and I can have the axles swapped and the heep lifted and ready for the trail!
I'll have my Waggy 44s up for sale in the near future...4:88, Detroits, Warn hubs, 60" WMS.
Little Napoleon wrote:Saw this on JF...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f129/bra ... j-1485743/
That skid is made by Barnes. Quality stuff right there. Both Kurt and I have them under our Rigs.

Re: "New" Wrangler in the stable

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:00 pm
by ArticRubi
Thanks for the link Chris!

Doug, isn't the CJ8 a passenger drop?

Re:

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:01 pm
by DOUG
ArticRubi wrote:Thanks for the link Chris!

Doug, isn't the CJ8 a passenger drop?
You said you were doing a Dana 300, these would save you from having to flip it.

Re:

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:16 pm
by Carl McFly
nice score!

Re: "New" Wrangler in the stable

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:02 pm
by ArticRubi
We'll make this a build thread now...

I worked out a deal with a vendor I deal with, he wanted my 42" PBR's and the 5 lug Spyderlocks, I wanted to lift my YJ and get some decent rubber on it. So, finding its way to the brown truck:

2.5" OME spring lift and shocks
1 1/4" shackle lift
32x11.50 Interco SX's mounted on some 15x8" D window steelies

I'm going to call it good on that for this season, y'all can look forward to seeing me explode a Dana 35 in record time :)

Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:06 pm
by Kurt
ArticRubi wrote:...I'm going to call it good on that for this season, y'all can look forward to seeing me explode a Dana 35 in record time :)
It'll grenade as you load it on your trailer :lol:

Re: Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:28 pm
by ArticRubi
Kurt wrote:
It'll grenade as you load it on your trailer :lol:
Brother...you ain't lying!

I will take some advice from you guys on something I've been pondering. I have a shot at picking up an HP30 and Chrysler 8.25 for short money, they're 4.10 open/open from a '95 XJ with drum brake rear. Other than welding some spring plates to set it up for SUA, what am I looking at in terms of getting these guys under there? Any info on whether I'll have to change the pinion flanges? Can you think of anything else I might be missing?

I'm going to end up with Doug's waggy 44's and D300 next off season, but I definitely don't want to be fixing a D35 every weekend. I'm hoping for a simple, cheap, reliable (pick any two, right?) solution to wheel on this season.

Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:25 pm
by ZAEDOCK
The 27 spline '95 8.25 will be no better than your 35. In fact, it would be worse, as your 35 at least has retained rear axles instead of c-clips.
The Dana 30 swap isn't worth the effort either.

The only plus would be the 4.10's, but IMO it's not enough of a plus for the work needed to put weaker/same axles in.

Re: "New" Wrangler in the stable

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:37 pm
by ArticRubi
Well crap. Research I did turned up the 8.25 being stronger. Couldn't find the exact COT/MOT specs on it but it fell between an AMC 20 and a D44. Something like D35 < AMC 20 < 8.25 < D44.

If the difference is negligible, to heck with it.

Re:

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:45 pm
by ZAEDOCK
Late 96 /97 Chryco 8.25's are 29 spline. The ealier models like the '95 are 27, just like the 35.

I would rate the axles as D35<8.25<AMC20<Dana44 - Although the FSJ version of the 20 and 44 are pretty close.

Re: "New" Wrangler in the stable

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:33 pm
by nostaw
Tubes and housing on a c8.25 are much stronger... As was said, older 27 spline shafts, not so much.

JW