Tons, Atlas
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Tons, Atlas
Disclaimer:
There's won't be any room for talk of pockets or pants or any variation of the two in this thread.
Putting this in the Tech section as it will serve as a build thread soon.
Confirmed orders today for a few items:
Atlas 4 speed, 11.7:1 overall
A set of Dana 60's from Solid Axle, kingpin front, full float rear, 8x6.5, 70" WMS, 5.38's, ARB's, 35 spline F/R, RCV's front, 1310 flanges
12" travel, 2 5/8" remote reservoir rear coilovers, mounted outboard
My last trip of the year is going to be Gretchen's, everything will start showing up after that and I currently have Tuesdays and Thursdays off. The plan is to swap the front in and stretch about 1.5" then stretch the rear 8" and comp cut. Fab rear coilover towers, lengthen both driveshafts. Currently looking for a smaller through-the-tub fuel cell to keep rear storage...looks like I'll be waiting for GenRight to finish their's to keep my JK emissions crap happy....their current 20 gallon model is too deep to accomodate a rear stretch. Contemplated doing an LS3/6L80 swap also...but it comes in at a very hefty price tag, can't justify it with 23k miles on a blown V6.
Have a buyer for my transfer case and I think he wants my axles too.
Stay tuned...Atlas is scheduled to ship 11/3, don't have a firm date from Solid on the axles yet, but it'll be about the same time.
There's won't be any room for talk of pockets or pants or any variation of the two in this thread.
Putting this in the Tech section as it will serve as a build thread soon.
Confirmed orders today for a few items:
Atlas 4 speed, 11.7:1 overall
A set of Dana 60's from Solid Axle, kingpin front, full float rear, 8x6.5, 70" WMS, 5.38's, ARB's, 35 spline F/R, RCV's front, 1310 flanges
12" travel, 2 5/8" remote reservoir rear coilovers, mounted outboard
My last trip of the year is going to be Gretchen's, everything will start showing up after that and I currently have Tuesdays and Thursdays off. The plan is to swap the front in and stretch about 1.5" then stretch the rear 8" and comp cut. Fab rear coilover towers, lengthen both driveshafts. Currently looking for a smaller through-the-tub fuel cell to keep rear storage...looks like I'll be waiting for GenRight to finish their's to keep my JK emissions crap happy....their current 20 gallon model is too deep to accomodate a rear stretch. Contemplated doing an LS3/6L80 swap also...but it comes in at a very hefty price tag, can't justify it with 23k miles on a blown V6.
Have a buyer for my transfer case and I think he wants my axles too.
Stay tuned...Atlas is scheduled to ship 11/3, don't have a firm date from Solid on the axles yet, but it'll be about the same time.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Holy Smokes ! You gonna be happy with that crate . FjR68
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Re: Tons, Atlas
you should work on getting that flat tire fixed, that's your main problem! The only thing I like better than spending money on my jeep is reading how others are spending money on theirs! Your jeep is going to be a beast. I just wish you weren't so far away so I could come down and help you throw it all together.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Let me know if you need a buyer for the rubi axles. A friend on another forum is looking for at least a front D44...
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Re: Tons, Atlas
60's and Atlas's are solid choices.
You still won't go where I do.
...but you'll try and that's cool.
You still won't go where I do.
...but you'll try and that's cool.
Come on dude, this is an oxymoron with the way your build has gone thus far.ArticRubi wrote:Contemplated doing an LS3/6L80 swap also...but it comes in at a very hefty price tag, can't justify it with 23k miles on a blown V6.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Sounds like you'll be needing a new rear bumper...
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Might hit you up on this. This guy is trying to low ball me on the axles.Joliet Jake Blues wrote:Let me know if you need a buyer for the rubi axles. A friend on another forum is looking for at least a front D44...
Challenge accepted...just try and keep upZAEDOCK wrote:60's and Atlas's are solid choices.
You still won't go where I do.
...but you'll try and that's cool.
Yeah, yeah, I know it. $5k just for the conversion package...It includes LS3 ECU, programmed to piggyback the Chrysler CANBUS crap, wiring harnesses, GM drive by wire gas pedal, brackets to relocate the V6 accessories on to the LS3, motor mounts, tranny mount, literally everything needed:ZAEDOCK wrote:Come on dude, this is an oxymoron with the way your build has gone thus far.ArticRubi wrote:Contemplated doing an LS3/6L80 swap also...but it comes in at a very hefty price tag, can't justify it with 23k miles on a blown V6.
http://www.lswrangler.com
Then add a crate LS3 and 6L80 to it...
Bottom line, I can blow up and replace this 3.8 V6 five times for the cost of this swap. It makes some pretty nasty horsepower anyway.
Yes sir! If you come to the Gretchen's run I'll pull the PSC one off after the trail ride and you can bring it home!jquader wrote:Sounds like you'll be needing a new rear bumper...
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Re: Tons, Atlas
nonsense, there just was lolArticRubi wrote:Disclaimer:
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looking forward to this build
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Jeez I'd like to drop those axles under my TJ.... ....
If / when you need a hand with this, lemme know. I'll pitch in when I can
If / when you need a hand with this, lemme know. I'll pitch in when I can
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Re: Tons, Atlas
ArticRubi wrote:Yeah, yeah, I know it. $5k just for the conversion package...It includes LS3 ECU, programmed to piggyback the Chrysler CANBUS crap, wiring harnesses, GM drive by wire gas pedal, brackets to relocate the V6 accessories on to the LS3, motor mounts, tranny mount, literally everything needed:
http://www.lswrangler.com
Then add a crate LS3 and 6L80 to it...
$5K and don't even get an engine.
Sheesh. I could drop the small block from my drag car into my Heep for about $500, including a detuned camshaft.
Then add EFI for about $1500+/- While fun, it would be too heavy and unbalance my rig. Plus I would break more.
They don't give that pOOp away though. That's why I do everything myself.
"I've been to the mountains, and I've been to the valley's, brother, and I can tell you...that squirrel power will reign supreme".
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Are you quoting yourself? If so,ZAEDOCK wrote:ArticRubi wrote:Yeah, yeah, I know it. $5k just for the conversion package...It includes LS3 ECU, programmed to piggyback the Chrysler CANBUS crap, wiring harnesses, GM drive by wire gas pedal, brackets to relocate the V6 accessories on to the LS3, motor mounts, tranny mount, literally everything needed:
http://www.lswrangler.com
Then add a crate LS3 and 6L80 to it...
$5K and don't even get an engine.
Sheesh. I could drop the small block from my drag car into my Heep for about $500, including a detuned camshaft.
Then add EFI for about $1500+/- While fun, it would be too heavy and unbalance my rig. Plus I would break more.
They don't give that pOOp away though. That's why I do everything myself.
"I've been to the mountains, and I've been to the valley's, brother, and I can tell you...that squirrel power will reign supreme".
I wish it was as easy as dropping in an SBC, unfortunately what you're paying for here is R&D with a few electrical engineers on the team to interface the Chrysler computer with GM's E38 ECU. There is some additional built in cost in the kit...MoTech is the company that makes the kit and they designed it to be able to remove everything from the 3.8 accessory drive, supply brackets, and swap it over to the LS. Then there's motor and tranny mounts which are included, brackets and plumbing for a bigger radiator and trans cooler. Add in a drive by wire accelerator pedal and a few custom wire harnesses and things start getting expensive quick. I did have a look at a bare bones kit that's just ECU, wire harness, and schematics; it saves you about $1100 to source all of the additional parts and fab all your brackets and mounts.
A crate GM LS3 is about $3900, 6L80 is $2800. That's actually not too bad. The weight is the reason that makes the LS3 such a nice choice, all aluminum block and it weighs in at less than 100# more than my V6.
I haven't taken the LS off the build list for good, but I want to get my money's worth out of the motor I have in it. Going to wheel it all next season and reevaluate things in the fall.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
That will be a trail ride I will not miss.ArticRubi wrote:Challenge accepted...just try and keep upZAEDOCK wrote: You still won't go where I do.
...but you'll try and that's cool.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
What do u do for work?? Just asking, not looking to bust balls.
Good luck on the build...
Good luck on the build...
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Sold my business about two years ago. I was an electrician and built motor control centers for poultry plants. Now I just do a bit of day trading while I'm finishing up an accounting degree at umass.
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Re: Tons, Atlas
Electrician? Poultry?
Hence forth, your rig is now officially called, the "Electric Chicken".
Hence forth, your rig is now officially called, the "Electric Chicken".
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