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Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:58 pm
by Straxis643
Hey guys, it was mentioned to me to get a good 2 way handheld, I was wondering which brand is good to buy? :confusion-helpsos:

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:54 pm
by BlackKnight
Any FRS is OK, The Club is using BaoFang still available on Amazon -

Then there are the premier brands like https://www.ruggedraceradios.com/

Bob

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:59 pm
by Hoodoo Man
BlackKnight wrote:Any FRS is OK, The Club is using BaoFang still available on Amazon -

Then there are the premier brands like https://www.ruggedraceradios.com/

Bob
Interesting. I thought it was no longer legal to sell these in the US after September 1st or something like that... these are a nice radio and I would jump on getting one while you still can. We only use the FSR function like on walkie talkies but these have a nice feature of doing HAM radio as well as weather band and a AM/FM tuner.

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:21 pm
by wrath0r
Hoodoo Man wrote: Interesting. I thought it was no longer legal to sell these in the US after September 1st or something like that... these are a nice radio and I would jump on getting one while you still can. We only use the FSR function like on walkie talkies but these have a nice feature of doing HAM radio as well as weather band and a AM/FM tuner.
I think you're correct. I'm no expert, having only passed my HAM exam yesterday, but my understanding is that the FCC has to put their stamp of approval on any radio that's sold in the states and they don't do that for radios that do both HAM and GMRS/FRS due to maximum transmitter strengths. Of course, you should be able to just restrict your transmitting power on the radio itself. I'm guessing the FCC figures it would be too easy to abuse or something.

Baofang makes great inexpensive radios. If you're looking for competition, Midland is also pretty popular in that range.


Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:47 pm
by Straxis643
Thanks a bunch guys, I appreciate it!

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:53 pm
by Straxis643
There was a link below the Baofang on amazon saying there was a newer version of the one bob linked, should i get the newer version or is the basic one fine? there is a big price difference one is $25, and one is like $65. Sorry for the newb questions, I am just not familiar with radios.

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:14 pm
by MDSRACING398
Basic

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:11 am
by wrath0r
I took a quick look into the legality issue for the Baofeng radios and, quite frankly, it made my head hurt. Here's the super short version: If it's certified under FCC Part 95, you're good to go. Here's a link if you want to start going down the rabbit hole. Bring tylenol. http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-cites-baof ... rf-devices

That out of the way, the Baofeng is actually a bit more than basic and that's not a bad thing. It's capable of tuning into HAM frequencies, which require a license to transmit on but not to receive on, and FRS, which does not require a license. Since it's the radio that the club uses, you'll have no problem getting someone to show you how to program it appropriately for you, and then it'll be very simple to use - just pick your saved channel and you're off. When you're not wheeling, you can use it to listen to local chatter for extra fun! If you want something that's a bit smaller, and dirt simple / basic, you want something more along the lines of the Midland radios I linked that only work on FRS / GMRS, but personally I think it's fun to be able to listen in on that other stuff. Just make sure whatever you get is FCC Part 95 certified and have fun! :dance:

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:36 am
by Straxis643
Thanks again guys for all the info!

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:23 pm
by MDSRACING398
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Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:55 pm
by Marky
I think the problem is that a "channel" is a specific frequency which is not a regulated thing that everyone necessarily agrees on. Channel 1 on one brand's radio might not be on exactly the same frequency as channel 1 on another brand's radio. It's not like CB. For the most part, they can agree, but there are discrepancies between brands. If you're going for a brand other than Baofeng, you might want to look up the channel to frequency charts for the brand you're looking at vs the Baofeng to ensure compatibility. (BTW, it gets more dicey when you start using privacy codes, which we usually don't.) Also, if you get a "programmable" radio, you should be able to program the channels (frequencies) Baystate uses and then not have to worry about whatever they think FRS5 is supposed to be.

One more thing - if you're buying a programmable radio (which I recommend), get one that is programmable by PC. Navigating the built in menus could be a nightmare. Download Chirp and it's a pretty easy thing once you have the info. There are a few of us with a file we can share. I think there's a thread somewhere else where I shared a standard file. There's also tables, etc. you can use to get all the frequencies and privacy codes.

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:35 am
by Emoto
One quick thing: If you are on a club run, DO NOT set your radio to "Voice Activated" aka VOX. Instead, set it to "PTT" or "Push to Talk", because what happens with voice activated is you end up transmitting without knowing it, and it clobbers any useful info coming from the run leader or others. Thanks!

-Bob

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:42 am
by MDSRACING398
Good stuff! Thanks Bob

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:06 pm
by ImNotCassie
Emoto wrote:One quick thing: If you are on a club run, DO NOT set your radio to "Voice Activated" aka VOX. Instead, set it to "PTT" or "Push to Talk", because what happens with voice activated is you end up transmitting without knowing it, and it clobbers any useful info coming from the run leader or others. Thanks!

-Bob

Yes. Good point thanks.

Re: Handheld 2-ways

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:44 pm
by TAB96
I just got the BAOFENG basic, but haven't used it yet. Is there any settings or basic frequencies I should know about before I show up with it on the trails? Thanks.