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Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:10 pm
by RandyCarol
What are your thoughts on siping tires? I know the benefits of it, but worry about chunking or accelerated tire wear. Tires are new, not mounted yet, is it more beneficial to wait until they are worn?

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:32 pm
by BlackNBlue-ISH
It would really depend on the type of tire you are looking to sipe. Siping tires makes plenty of sense for a mud terrain in the snow as snow traction will be greatly improved, but for all other seasons, the benefits may not be as drastic. If you sipe too close to the edge of the lug, then chunking could definitely be an issue.

Are you talking about grooving or siping a tire. Siping doesn't remove any material from the tire, but just slices it to allow the lugs to move a bit more. A good friend of mine grooved a set of tires on his trailer queen and doubled the traction off road. I may look into siping my tires next winter as snow/slush traction was quite poor.

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:37 pm
by JeepAddict
We used to use a hot knife years ago to sipe mud tires. They had great gripping power but it was also a great deal of work to ensure that the depth of the cut was consistent on each lug. It was like having fingers grab into the rocks....Are you planning on running them full time or swap them out based on the trail?

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:50 pm
by RandyCarol
Full time, so I would sipe as opposed to grooving

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:21 pm
by BlackNBlue-ISH
what kind of tires are they? have you run them before and know the capabilities?

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:35 pm
by RandyCarol
BlackNBlue-ISH wrote:It would really depend on the type of tire you are looking to sipe. Siping tires makes plenty of sense for a mud terrain in the snow as snow traction will be greatly improved, but for all other seasons, the benefits may not be as drastic. If you sipe too close to the edge of the lug, then chunking could definitely be an issue.

Are you talking about grooving or siping a tire. Siping doesn't remove any material from the tire, but just slices it to allow the lugs to move a bit more. A good friend of mine grooved a set of tires on his trailer queen and doubled the traction off road. I may look into siping my tires next winter as snow/slush traction was quite poor.
Siping, not grooving.
They are Nitto Trail Grapplers, they don't really have any original sipes. I've never ran these tires before and I've heard siping grips well in the rocks. I'm only thinking of going it now because I'm waiting on other parts and I'm itching to do something jeep related so I was looking into it.

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:34 pm
by ImNotCassie
RandyCarol wrote: I'm only thinking of going it now because I'm waiting on other parts and I'm itching to do something jeep related so I was looking into it.

Haha. Randy is having withdrawals. Long winter?

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:51 pm
by RandyCarol
ImNotCassie wrote:
RandyCarol wrote: I'm only thinking of going it now because I'm waiting on other parts and I'm itching to do something jeep related so I was looking into it.

Haha. Randy is having withdrawals. Long winter?
Lol, yes. Getting cabin fever, need to do something with tools.

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:33 pm
by BlackNBlue-ISH
I'd hold off on siping the tires until you've tested them. No sense messing with something that may already work just fine.

If you really want to do some work, I've got a few jeeps, I could probably find something for you to do haha

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:55 am
by RandyCarol
BlackNBlue-ISH wrote:I'd hold off on siping the tires until you've tested them. No sense messing with something that may already work just fine.

If you really want to do some work, I've got a few jeeps, I could probably find something for you to do haha
I'm up for helping with projects, busy time of year so looking for projects to squeeze in during some down time. I'll take your advice and hold off on the siping until I try out the tires. I have a steering box to tap and swap out for future hydro, maybe by the time I'm done with that my urge will be cured ;)

Re: Siping tires

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:11 pm
by RalphTomaccio
Come to the Earth Day clean up and bring a wrench to make you feel better. :lol: