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Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:47 pm
by Carl McFly
Broke an upper shock bolt when I was going to replace my rear shocks

Or maybe I should say "I broke 1 so far"

I stopped after the first one, I couldn't believe they'd seize like that after only a year (this was before my Permatex Anti Seize revelation that all wrenchers get)

So that's my project for Saturday, fix the mess and get new shocks on. Found this on the JP magazine forum...

"you can take a punch and knock the broken bolt/nut up, it has a small spot weld on it, another way is to put a wrench on it and twist it off from between the body and the crossmember... it's a PITA, without a body lift, tho it'll come off, replace it with a new bolt and nut."

What do you think? Would you recommend that or you have another idea? I read that drilling them out is just about impossible, between the angle and hardened steel

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:55 pm
by Scott
Very easy fix with an air hammer. Use a pointy tip and BAH BAH BAH it'll pop right out. There should be an access hole to stick a nut through taped to a box wrench. ;)

http://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/ ... 95801.html

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:26 pm
by ChrisD
I feel your pain. When installing the lift I broke 2. Found out it is another jeep thin, very common. I don't remember what I did for the fix.

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:32 pm
by Kurt
Sounds like a PITA I'll be dealing with when my TJ goes under the wrench over the next few weeks.

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:07 am
by ZAEDOCK
I assume the rear shocks on a TJ have the same kind of mount that XJ's use? One bolt on each side of the shock?

If so, You-do-it + 1/2" air hammer = no more borken bolt. I remember working in the suspension dept. and having to do rear shocks on Ford/Merc full size wagons. I had a bit for my 1/2" CP that was 30" long. It cut the upper shock bolt like butter.

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:38 pm
by nostaw
For my XJ I ended up drilling out the broken bolts and retapping the hole for a larger size (I think I went from 5/16 to 3/8) bolt. I haven't tried to take them out since I did the lift, so who knows what would happen now... The shocks I've got are really old, so I'll find out one of these days...

I've seen some shock mount "extensions" which you can use that bolt to the body, and then the shock bolts to that. The idea is, with these extensions, you can get to the back of the shock bolts with a wrench and avoid these sorts of problems in the future... I think I saw them in JP a while ago, but I can't recall who made them / what they were named.

JW

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:39 pm
by Carl McFly
ZAEDOCK wrote:I assume the rear shocks on a TJ have the same kind of mount that XJ's use? One bolt on each side of the shock?

If so, You-do-it + 1/2" air hammer = no more borken bolt. I remember working in the suspension dept. and having to do rear shocks on Ford/Merc full size wagons. I had a bit for my 1/2" CP that was 30" long. It cut the upper shock bolt like butter.
Yup, a bolt on either side. Definitely taking the air hammer approach, tx guys

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:16 pm
by beaker
Now if I could only get the broken tap out of one of those holes....

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:25 pm
by Carl McFly
beaker wrote:Now if I could only get the broken tap out of one of those holes....
ouch! I'll be in Nashua Saturday morning working on my rig, if you want to swing by, maybe we could try to tackle yours. I mean, if you're OK with the air hammer approach :geek:

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:56 am
by nostaw
Carl McFly wrote:ouch! I'll be in Nashua Saturday morning working on my rig, if you want to swing by, maybe we could try to tackle yours. I mean, if you're OK with the air hammer approach :geek:
Hey Carl... I'll probably be in there also... Got 2 snow tires to mount & balance.

Maybe I'll see you there.

JW

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:24 pm
by beaker
Carl McFly wrote:
beaker wrote:Now if I could only get the broken tap out of one of those holes....
ouch! I'll be in Nashua Saturday morning working on my rig, if you want to swing by, maybe we could try to tackle yours. I mean, if you're OK with the air hammer approach :geek:
I've tried the air hammer approach with no luck. Carbide burrs are on the shelf for the next time I get motivated. Its been 4 years with one (old) shock in the rear, so I've gotten used to it.

-mike

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:20 pm
by ZAEDOCK
beaker wrote:I've tried the air hammer approach with no luck.

Did you use a 1/2" or 3/8" hammer? The 1/2" should have shot the old bolt out pretty easily.

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:04 pm
by Carl McFly
I used an air chisel, pounded out 2 (yes, 2!) broken bolts, pretty quick. Used a nut / bolt instead, with beefy washers on each side. Think it will hold up, guess I'll find out soon enough

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:00 pm
by beaker
ZAEDOCK wrote:
beaker wrote:I've tried the air hammer approach with no luck.

Did you use a 1/2" or 3/8" hammer? The 1/2" should have shot the old bolt out pretty easily.
Yeah, but its not a bolt, its a broken tap.

-mike

Re: Broken F&^%#! shock bolt

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:30 am
by Kurt
beaker wrote:....Yeah, but its not a bolt, its a broken tap. -mike
Have you tried a tap extractor?

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Kurt wrote:Sounds like a PITA I'll be dealing with when my TJ goes under the wrench over the next few weeks.
Got to tearing into my TJ this week. Looks like a PO already snapped those bolts off. :lol:
The old bolt remains were alreaday chiseled up out of the way and had been replaced with bolts and nuts.
Thank goodness I have the gas tank out so I could get a wrench up on the spinning bolt heads :P

Probably going to weld some stainless bolts in so it'll be easier to take apart in the future.