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Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:42 pm
by RandyCarol
I installed the above ARB system over the weekend, it’s a nice fit under the seat. Not sure if that viair tank I mentioned will fit, the ARB tank was tight all around. To answer the question about the tank drain, even if there was one you would never get to it. When I’m done airing up I’ll just purge the tank and hope most of the moisture blows out. Didn’t take many photos but here is one showing where the coupler and switch is:

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:37 pm
by Marky
Hoodoo Man wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 pm have you considered hard wiring your VAIAR to fill a hard-mounted portable tank and filling the tires form the tank while the pump is running? that is somewhat the plan I have. JP magazine did a write up with another pump and an affordable 5-gallon tank from Harbor Freight... considerably cheaper than going with a completely new setup... just a thought...
I tried that once with my setup (ARB dual plus 2.5 gallon tank) and found it to be pointless. The pump fills the tank to pressure, you connect it to a tire and the pressure equalizes, then the pump runs until both the tank and tire reach your desired pressure. In the few seconds it takes to get to the next tire the pump continues to run adding a bit of pressure to the tank which immediately equalizes when you connect it to the tire and you wait for the pump to fill both to pressure again. Repeat 2 more times. Basically, not only do you fill 4 tires, you also fill your tank. In the end, it takes more time to do it that way than to just fill it direct from the pump. And you now have a tank full of air you need to empty. It might come in handy if I'm filling multiple vehicles with air (more down time in between that the pump can use to store air in the tank) but otherwise not worth it for only 4 tires. My tank was intended to give me the ability to use air tools as needed. I have electric lockers so no need for a tank there, either.

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:23 am
by Frank
I find after wheelin , with the tank full to begin with . The first tire from 5/6 lbs to 28 is under a minute. True the pump starts but Im still way above tire psi so the second and third tire are around 80/90 sec. The last tire is about over 2 min as the tank is in the 28/30 psi range. I have a 5 gal. tank if that makes a difference . My max- air pump was advertised moons ago to be the fastest offered , at 4.0 CFM pump. Dont know how that compares today but Its all of 10 yrs. old and works well and can run any tool you got. I have it shut off at 130PSI . It can do 150 FjR68

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:37 pm
by Marky
If the tank is already full, that makes a difference. Also, the volume of a 5 gallon will help as well (again, since it's already full.) For me, it starts empty so I'm really just pushing air through a big tank rather than a skinny hose so I have to fill the volume of the tire plus the tank to pressure before moving on. The first tire takes a long time.

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:10 pm
by BlackKnight
Install looks Awsome...

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:33 am
by Frank
Marky . I usually turn the comp on on the way out / off the trail so its full when your ready to do bidness . FjR68

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:15 am
by Marky
Frank wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:33 am Marky . I usually turn the comp on on the way out / off the trail so its full when your ready to do bidness . FjR68
Makes sense. My setup requires me to intentionally connect the tank to the pump, there's not enough advantage for me to change that. If I had installed it differently, I would consider doing that.

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:35 am
by JeepAddict
Marky, you have yours mounted in the back storage compartment right?

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:51 am
by Marky
Yes. Perfect size for the pump, hose and nozzle. Only downside is having to move stuff to get to it, but it's not a big issue. My tank is built into the storage box just behind the hatch.

Re: Air comp. upgrade

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:29 pm
by ChrisL
Almost *any* fire extinguisher service company will fill your own CO2 bottles for you. I figured this out during my time as a homebrewer. ASAP fire in Tyngsboro will fill bottles for a $1 a pound while you wait. There is also a small shop in Acton that does it as well.

Additionally, you can buy a 20-pound liquid CO2 bottle and fill the bottle yourself. I used 2.5 and 5-pound tanks in my brewery and fill them off of a 20-pound liquid tank.

CO2 is corrosive and the cylinders have to be reinspected every 5 years. It costs around $20 and there is a date code stamped on the cylinder.

Chris