$&@?!?"$ Engine

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Sorry Jeff, looking to "reset" the odometer with a complete rebuild. Since everything is out it makes sense right now.

So my options are:

#1: Replace broken components + new rings. Few hundred and I'm done.
#2: Bring the block and head to Golen to have them machine, hone, etc and reassemble with mostly stock components. $1-$2k
#3: Buy a complete stroker from Golen with warranty. $4300.

Any other good options out there? Trying to weight $ and value. I'd like this to be the last engine work I have to do for a very, very long time so I'd like to do it right. Not looking for any exotic swaps as I don't want to start moving mounts. 4.0 or stroked 4.0.
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Baseshakers wrote:Sorry Jeff, looking to "reset" the odometer with a complete rebuild. Since everything is out it makes sense right now.

So my options are:


#3: Buy a complete stroker from Golen with warranty. $4300.

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Baseshakers wrote:...Any other good options out there? ...
Another option is to get a 4.0 from a recycling yard. They usually come with a guarantee.
I've picked up a couple of used engines from Bow Autoparts and have been very happy with their stuff.
Check out www.car-part.com. I see ones for your rig going for $800-$1,000.

Just another option to consider.
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Baseshakers wrote:Sorry Jeff, looking to "reset" the odometer with a complete rebuild. Since everything is out it makes sense right now.

also the engine is being traded to Ray for a 5.3 for my 71 Jeepster. 8-) He needed a new I6 for Lisa's YJ and I need the old i6 AX15, and NP231 out of my yard. :lol: It works out well as its the perfect plant for the 71 Jeepster which needed an engine when I bought it. :music-rockout:
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Im sooo excited shes gonna get fixed. Just one question ? If your leaning toward Golen , Ask them which crank they use. The 4.2s had 12 weight cranks that make killer low RPM torque , like mine. Not the best MPGs but wont usually stall. The latter 4.2s had 6 weight and latest had 4 weight cranks. Makes quicker and higher revs, more MPGs and more suitable to the street unless you have three ranges in a gearbox behind a gearbox with 5 speeds. Just throwin that out there. The other thing is , 4 guys I know that bought complete Golens ,had bottom end issues. Not sayin they werent the issue (the kids) to begin with. Good luck with the build. IMO , I had mine Boiled,decked,bored,cam bearings (block) Head boiled,decked,Valve seat area milled (per Clifford) Guides. Then I took them home and did the assembly and breakin. 14 hondos and change. With the Clifford parts it 270 HP and 360 lb/ft at a magical 3300 RPMs. Thats a build for 4 wheelin ! GiterDone ! FjR68
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Franky! Thanks for the info. Curious, can you find out more about the issues with the Golen engines? If I'm thinking about spending that kind of coin I need to know exactly what I'm getting myself into. Golen offers a warranty but knowing my luck the engine would blow the day after the warranty ran out.
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Hey Ryan. Saw your posts. I've read that stroked Golen engines require pmc modifications and/or larger injectors...PIA. If you are geared correctly, and I know you are, go stocker rebuild with a better cam for the stuff you do. Maybe a set of Banks headers to top it off. That's my 2 cents anyways.
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Dennis is on the same page as me . Only my opinion Ryan. Call clifford Performance and he will probably answer the phone. Talk to him about what we do , what you want to do, and get a price. The only part of his engine build I dont have is his header . Listen to Curtis"s Jeep. Youd swear his is a V-8. I just didnt have the other 400 buks at the time. Other than gas mileage , Mine feels like a V-8, torque wise. All stock components (different years) in the bottom end, and stupid me spent money on a high port 4.0 head when he could have made the stock head breath just as good and all my components would have fit back on. I cant say enough about his approach to improvements but you have to make the decision . Everything Ive read about Golan is good . Like power , torque, improved road manners. Ive just never read how it was doing after time on the road and wheelin. The magazines just never gave you long term results. I only know 4 dudes that bought them ,2 wranglers and 2 Grands and all of them were driven hard , but all of them failed in the bottom end. Im not sure you needed to change injectors and or flash the ECM , But Id do forum research first. Have the machine work done thats required, Buy all the parts , give me a call , I will assemble the engine for you in 3 hours ! GiterDone ! FjR68
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